How to recover deleted messages on iphone without backup

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Mar 22, 2020 10:24 AM in response to Axel Foley In response to Axel Foley

But the messages are still there somewhere right? There must be a way?

Mar 22, 2020 10:24 AM

Mar 22, 2020 10:45 AM in response to camilla200 In response to camilla200

They are not there anywhere because you said they were deleted. Which then leaves the backup on iCloud or a computer and you said that there is no backup. So, I am afraid, they are gone.

Axel F.

Mar 22, 2020 10:45 AM

Mar 22, 2020 11:18 AM in response to camilla200 In response to camilla200

Go to Settings > Your name, Apple ID, iTunes & App Store > iCloud

Is iCloud backup turned on?

Mar 22, 2020 11:18 AM

Mar 22, 2020 11:28 AM in response to lobsterghost1 In response to lobsterghost1

Yes, but I am not sure if it was before the messages disappeared.

I dont know if the messages where deleted or what happened, I just realised that a part of a conversation was missing. But I guess I accidentaly deleated it.

can I see all the times its been backed up on ICloud or just the most recent one?

Mar 22, 2020 11:28 AM

Mar 22, 2020 11:32 AM in response to camilla200 In response to camilla200

The better question is do you have messages turned on in iCloud. Go to the same place I directed you and see if you have Messages turned on. If you do and it's been on, the backup won't restore a deleted message.

Mar 22, 2020 11:32 AM

Mar 22, 2020 11:37 AM in response to lobsterghost1 In response to lobsterghost1

Yes I have messages turned on in iCloud. But do you mean that the backup can not restore deleted imessages even if its turned on?

Mar 22, 2020 11:37 AM

Mar 22, 2020 11:40 AM in response to camilla200 In response to camilla200

The reality is if you sync messages in the cloud, your backup doesn't backup messages, so yes, if messages in the cloud is turned on, a backup won't contain the messages.

Mar 22, 2020 11:40 AM

Mar 22, 2020 11:42 AM in response to lobsterghost1 In response to lobsterghost1

Ok, but what about if I did not have it turned on when I deleted the messages?

Mar 22, 2020 11:42 AM

Mar 22, 2020 11:45 AM in response to camilla200 In response to camilla200

If it wasn't turned on before you deleted the message, and you have a backup from then, then yes, you can restore from the backup. Just ask yourself how important these messages are to restore your phone to a date from before you started syncing messages in the cloud?

Mar 22, 2020 11:45 AM

Mar 22, 2020 11:48 AM in response to lobsterghost1 In response to lobsterghost1

Ok, but I can only see one backup in iCloud and its from yesterday. Does iCloud only save the latest backup or can I see older backups and choose to restore from the otherones somehow?

Mar 22, 2020 11:48 AM

Mar 22, 2020 11:53 AM in response to camilla200 In response to camilla200

iCloud to my memory only keeps a couple of the most recent backups. See this link and when you choose to restore from iCloud backup, you'll be given the date options available --> Restore your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch from a backup - Apple Support

Mar 22, 2020 11:53 AM

Mar 22, 2020 12:06 PM in response to lobsterghost1 In response to lobsterghost1

But I need to reset my iPhone and delete all data before?!

Mar 22, 2020 12:06 PM

Mar 22, 2020 12:18 PM in response to camilla200 In response to camilla200

That's how restoring from a backup works. This is why I keep asking if the messages are really worth the hassle you'll be going to through? There is no such thing as selectively restoring bits of a backup. It's all or nothing.

Mar 22, 2020 12:18 PM